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September 30, 2006

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I disagree with Jess' assessment of this situation. Jess knows prospects far better than I ever will. I think however that in this case he's wrong. in my opinion I agree with Jess and I think Dubinsky is an NHL player. THe only issue is, in my opinion, is that he's not ready to center a first or second line and that is clearly where he belongs. Centering the 4th line and playing 4 - 6 minutes a game is NOT going to help him develop. Remember he's only what, 20 years old? Playing first line and 20-25 minutes a game in Hartford will make him a more complete player when he comes back which I do agree when he comes back he's there to stay.

Staahl should be in Juniors since he can't go to Hartford. He stood ZERO chance of making the NHL roster and he' clearly not ready for it yet. he shows flashes of billiance which is why he wasn't traded for Jack Johnson, but that doesn't mean that he's ready just yet.

I think that Thomas Pock is going to make the team as the 7th D-Man. he had a much better pre-season than Martin Richter who was clearly his only competition. In this role it's really a make or break season for Tommy. If he doesn't show that he should be playing regularly he's going to be traded or just not resigned after the season.

THe only question mark at this point is, "Does Jarrko Immonen and/or Nigel Dawes make the team?" I think the answer is, "yes, on both accounts." I have no basis for this opinion other than what I've seen out of both. I think Dawes has a better chance than Jarrko does, but it could go wither way. I think it will boil down to whether TOm Renney wants to play Hollweg at center or wing.

I'm going ot sit down and watch the Rangers and Boston on NESN. Hope you folks have a terrific day.

The last five Ranger exhibition goals:

Dubinsky (Lessard)
Hall (Immonen)
Immonen
Baranka (Immonen)
Dawes (Game Winner)

I guess Hossa's smarter than we think. Don't score, don't make an impact, get praised by Renney, don't get sent down to Hartford.

First off if you want to listen LIVE to the game then go here and click on Listen Live: http://wbz.com/

Sorry but it is the Bruin feed but Prucha has just scored LOL.

Now to respond to Mitch's post.

He is correct I do know the prospects BUT what people tend to forget is that I also know how they ought to be developed. I have spent the last couple of years listening, asking questions of those who develop young prospects. I talk with scouts, directors of player development, GMs and coaches.

A common mistake that fans tend to make is the mindset that young players should be used at what their potential suggests. Sorry that is not how you wean a young player to NHL level play.

You start a prospect on the 4th line with limited minutes as you find out how ready the prospect is. As the prospect shows he can handle that responsibility you start to increase his workload, add on to the player's workload as time goes on and move him up the depth chart.

Unless you are a Crosby or an Overchkin that is how you are worked into the lineup of an NHL team. Rich Nash, Joe Thornton, Ingila, and on and on have been developed this way.

As for Staal, I am afraid Mitch missed my point. Early in the season you can keep Staal around and help his development by letting him get a taste of NHL regular season play. You are allowed 9 games so it helps Staal's development by showing him what he needs to work on with Sudbury.

Yes the rule stinks but what Staal needs is not outplaying 16-18 yrs olds but instead knowing firsthand (not by talking to him) what he has to do in order to move to the next level.

BTW given a choice of Staal or Jack Johnson, I want Staal as I am not sold on Johnson's potential

And before people give Pock a roster spot, overlook Baranka if you dare. Baranka is a better defender and can give you the same level of offense.

JESS: I think Barnaka and Pock (who has improve his d) should get the spot before Rachunek, who has been unimpressive. Unfortunately, I think we'll be stuck with Rachunek. Same scenario as Hossa. One of those Renney: "And that's that" decisions. Hard to get inside that guy's decision-making process.

I am really surprised at the lukewarm response Pock is getting around here. How could one not expect him to make the club?? He has arguably been the best defenseman this camp, second only to perhaps Ward.

Folks need to go take a look at his stats. His sophomore year at every level was a significant improvement over the prior year. Thus far it appears that he has improved on his skating and his defense, and his confidence has grown because of it.

Richter and Rachunek have shown virtually nothing, Malik has looked characteristically lousy in the preseason, and Kaspar has looked downright awful at times.

He has not only played himself onto the roster, but I think the team would be doing itself a disservice by not starting him next Thursday.

HDH - I'm with ya'. About a month ago I got slammed for saying Pock was better than Rozsival. Everything Pock has demonstrated so far shows that he deserves to be a regular in the lineup and on the pp. Anyone miss Rozsival for an instant?

Jess:

I tend to agree with Tom Renney in that I would rather see Dubi play 20+ minutes a game at the AHL level for one season and then come in and play either the first or second line center next season. I'm not 100% certain, but I think this is Nylander's last year and there are others on the last year of a deal too. Betts comes to mind. I would rather see Dubi build up his strength and confidence at the AHL level and come up when there is an occasion to give him serious minutes than to have him play 4th line.

Let's just agree that everyone has a differnet idea/method for the development of a younger player. In this case we see things differently. Truth be told, I don't think either method is "wrong." There are plenty of examples on both sides of the argument to justify both. in this case Tom Renney's matters most. I have no doubt whatsoever that Dubi is a player that this team will build around for the future. I think the team is deep enough that they can afford to take their time and not rush someone up.

As for Staahl, in my opinion, he is a victim of the system. I think that he is clearly out of his league at the NHL level. He shows flashes that he's going to be terrific, but I don't think throwing him in there when the games mean something where his inexperience can lead to possibly Henke getting hurt or unnecessary goals in the net or games unnecessarily being dropped and his getting booed will help. He really deserves to be in the AHL. But that's the ways things are right now. Wouldn't it be nice if each team was allowed 1 exception to the rule per AHL team line up? I would be willing to be t you that there isn't an NHL team out there that doesn't have a player in a similar situation.

Baranka is a great player and a very good kid. I am not impressed with Rachunek either and his bailing out on the team and hiding in Russia because he didn't like NY certainly doesn't help my opinion of him either. Don't be at all surprised if he is packaged for a PP QB if Leetch isn't brought back. We're deep with that level of D-Man prospect. Baranka is a perfect example of that.

HDH:

I agree with you that Malik and Kasper have had subpar preseason's. kasper at least has a legitamite excuse having to come back from two surgeries and from the people that I've spoken to a very uncomfotable divorce. Having been down that road myself, that can be the more devasating thing to your psyche than even the surgeries. Malik to me just isn't showing us anything.

Pemoco:

Rozival is a good D-Man. Have we missed his presence? Yes. Have we been able to play effectively without him. The answer is also yes. I know that sounds like I'm taking both sides but really I'm not. I do think that some, not all but some, of the reason that the power-play has struggled is because of his not being there. Certainly Jagr not being there didn't help either...okay more like crippled it, but it doesn't change the necessity of having Rozy there.

This should be a great season. Uncle Larry is picking us to win the Cup and considering how he's always so negative about the team that gives me a lot of hope that the team is doing the right things.

Lastly, I would bet a pizza taht Hossa is not on this team by the time Orts comes back...

Don't know what games some of you have been watching but Pock has been one of the better Ranger D out there. Baranka has really improved since I saw him in WJC's but I think he still needs seasoning in Hartford. Dawes will score a lot of goals if he has a good centreman(not Betts). I think it was the right move to send Dubinsky down. He's a great prospect but he needs to work on his skating stride. I notice that he lets his legs get too far apart at times which affects his balance and ability to keep his feet moving. As for Immonen, I'm not that impressed with him because I think when the playing starts for real, his skating will be found wanting. Just MO.

Don't know what games some of you have been watching but Pock has been one of the better Ranger D out there. Baranka has really improved since I saw him in WJC's but I think he still needs seasoning in Hartford. Dawes will score a lot of goals if he has a good centreman(not Betts). I think it was the right move to send Dubinsky down. He's a great prospect but he needs to work on his skating stride. I notice that he lets his legs get too far apart at times which affects his balance and ability to keep his feet moving. As for Immonen, I'm not that impressed with him because I think when the playing starts for real, his skating will be found wanting. Just MO.

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