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November 06, 2007

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Some have suggested that Avery's collision with DiPietro might have been intentional, but in an interview earlier this season, the goaltender absolved his antagonist. "No, I would hope no one would intentionally take a shot at someone trying to recover from a serious head injury," DiPietro said. "I don't think it was malicious.

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Why do some stil lthink the D line needs improving with these #s? if its not broke dont fix it

Since everyone is lengthing their names and I usually go against the tide I am going to shorten mine...Z

I have to say... Dubinsky has shown probably the most chemistry with Jagr so far. These past few games are the only time so far this season that I have seen some plays similar to last season when they are cycling and working the puck deep.

....still not sure why Hossa is on that line. Aside from a game or two, Hossa has not shown much all season long. I would not say he deserves to be benched. But they have to get him off the top line. Hossa has not really even generated chances for himself. I'd like to see what Prucha could do up there. He has been getting chances all season.

Chris QCT,

I think that when Straka returns he will be on the first line with Jags and Dubinsky unless Hossa somehow breaks out between now and then ... I like Prucha right where he is, with Gomez and Avery, that line is fast and gets scoring chances and I think they will start to consistently score soon

Tom, I think, as a GM, Sather has to always be looking for ways to improve upon the current product on the ice. The fact is, we have a surplus of serviceable defensemen and forwards... and while depth is a great thing to have over the course of the season and postseason, it is also beneficial to try to find the missing piece to a team that is largely built for a cup run. In my opinion, Sather could package some of the redundant (and I use that work for lack of a better term) pieces to a team in need that might have a piece we need. For example, one of Dawes, Callahan or Prucha could be packaged with Malik to bring back a stout young defenseman, like Brewer (this is just an example... I have not looked at salaries or other considerations).

Simply put, Sather should be hustling to figure out what the market is for the types of players we need. Just because something does not appear broken does not mean it cannot be improved upon... this exactly the approach Smith took when he loaded up at the trading deadline in 1994.

I think we'll go for Boyle before the season is over.

Chris

Hossa hasn't been particularly great but he opens up space for Jagr so for now I'd leave it as is. Besides, the Avery-Gomez-Prucha line has looked very good these past 2 games, no reason to mess with what works.

Hossa has been a bit quiet since he got the flu, but he does play the body and open up the ice more for Jagr. And with the new center on that line, it just might be him having a slight learning curve. That said, I think Hossa will replace Hollweg on the 4th line once Straka returns.

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Malik status tonight??? any other changes such as in goal????

the secon anyone knows a definite answer on dipietro, post it here...if he doest play tonight then vally vs dubi would be a good time to give hank a break..hank is so focused that a night off wont break his hot streak

I agree with Ryan, Hossa's on that line because he uses his size and kind of just fits with that line. I'm sure once Straka and/or Callahan comes back he'll be pushed back to the 4th line and get most of his ice time killing penalties if he's even in the lineup at all.

Just another point about Hossa (or Prucha or whomever) no one has lit it up offensively on this team. Just a point.

Ledhed why would you trade one of 3 young promising players for a young Dman if we have atleast 3 of them on Hartford.Dont forget when Jags and Shanny leaves after this season or the season after in Jags case we need those kids to produce

Why do all these Islander fans keep coming over to this site and want to trade our young players for another d'man. We've won 4 in a row and 5 of 6. Just leave it alone and things will work out just fine. IF we need to make changes at the trading deadling because we have a legitimate chance to run for the cup I'm sure the Ranger braintrust will do what is needed. Every flippin day someone comes on here and wants to trade a good young player off this team. Let it go. If we were 2 and 24 then we would make changes but now things are starting to work out. Give the kids a break and let them play. They're doing fine and are a lot of fun to watch. Z

Got side tracked...I hope we punish the fishsticks tonight.. Both phsically and on the scoreboard...Z

PLus who would trade a good dman for Malik lol

Hossa will most likely be demoted to the 4th line when Straka returns. That's great that Dubinsky and Jagr like playing with each other (clean minds now folks), Jagr never said that about Gomez or Drury. I think now Renney has figured out that these new combos are working fine and the more they play together, the better they'll get. Hope Jagr stays happy all season playing with Dubi, might even score a few goals!!! :)

I can't tell you what some member of this forum said about Jagr's groin. It was hilarious, let's leave it at that. :))

The only complaint I got, which may be justified or not, is that Dawes only got 10 minutes. That could be because his linemates were killing penalties and that kept him off the ice, but with his shot, he has to play more.

Z, seriously buddy, STFU. My earlier opinion was merely an example of something Sather might try if he were looking to make a move. I realize that there are other options and potential needs once the likes of Shanny and Straka decide to call it a career.

I was in no way indicating that I would want such a move to happen. I also know the Rangers front office will do what is necessary when the time comes (thanks for that incredibly obvious piece of information).

My only point was not to be complacent, either on the ice or in the front office. Again, just becasue something "ain't broke" doesn't mean that it could not be improved upon. And as far as your insinuation as to my allegiance to this team, that was weak and unfounded. But you keep trying to pass along your insights as fact and biblical truth... that is your right on a posting board... but remember, they are simply your opinions devoid of any other insider information... like everyones else's opinions.

We have been playing excellent defensively, in large part because defense is a team effort. Give credit for that to the coaches.

Still, this team would be that much better with a star defenseman in the Neidermeyer-Pronger mold. I don't think we can afford one, given the cap, unless we trade for someone at the deadline.

It's nice to get a few wins -- and I say this as one who hs been consistently optimistic about this team -- but I still don't see the Rangers as a cup favorite at this point. Certainly Ottawa looks to be the best team in the East. So I wouldn't turn down a chance to upgrade, unless it clearly was bad for the long term.

It wasn't all that long ago that people were foaming at the mouth when Dubinsky got 3 minutes one game and accused Renney of hating kids, well, now that he is playing with Jagr, I suppose that demonstrates they were wrong.

Ledhed: I was born and raised in New Jersey, so I (and everyone else) know what your acronym means. Z doesn't deserve such harsh treatment. NO ONE on this board does. Give it a rest. Sounds like a Dubi decision. Good luck. And whether you are a Philanderer fan or not, what's the big deal? Go RANGERS!

Anyone think Dubinsky reminds you of Nylander a little? Goes in the corners, digs the puck out, keeps it, makes some good moves to get people open.

Hes a better defensive player also.

LETS GO RANGERS!!!!

Big difference, Dubi hits, Nylander doesn't. Hopefully by the end of this season we'll all be saying Michael who??

As Ranger fans we got two Dubi's in our life, one hits and the other deletes!!

Sorry to have offended, NCSteve (and others... I was tyring to keep it tame yet blunt). Not that it is a big deal but I really cannot stand heavy-handed messgage board posters who try to belittle or squelch other people thoughts and opinions. And just for the record, you might not find a more dedicated Rangers fan than me (I will refrain from listing any credentials). I lurk on this, and other Rangers sites, all day out of interest but rarely post... that is why I cannot stand it when someone feels it necessary to chime in and hammer other people... usually drives away potential loyal readers.

Anyway, again, sorry if I offended anyone. I was simply trying to keep this space open for thoughts other than those who post with frequency (and in so doing, going overboard with their own opinions and agendas).

Like you're doing right now! LMAO!!

Sorry born and raised in nyc. I know exactly what that means. Only justifies my position that people come on here once a month and try to trade away everyone on the team that can help us for years to come. If our defense was bad maybe I would agree but our D is excellant. Maybe one of these kids everyone wants to trade away will turn into that superstar point man we need. If Rozival would shoot more we wouldn't even be having this discussion...Z

another great game and win last nite!! and the jagr goal, man what a heavy shot he has, anyone else hear that THUNK of the puck hitting the net? but oy, those versus announcers, specifically the play-by-play guy, i think at some point he said henrik had a set of "marvelous legs" or something like that. where do they get these guys?? and the lack of replays, especially for the (phantom) penalties are dang frustrating to endure. more silly versus coverage tonite, can't wait. i remember reading nhl going back to espn next season or two, i really hope so....

also, it will be very interesting to see the line changes when straka and cally return. as i've stated before i hope avery gets with drury and shanny and put gomez with prucha and cally. jagr can play with dubinsky and straka or anyone he wants too....

Even making the suggestion to trade those 3 players is ludicrous!!!! Those 3 players are the future. Keep this package in NY where it belongs---THAT'S MY OPINION!!!!


Matty, I love kittens/cats!!!

LET'S GO RANGERS!

Actually the Versus's guy said on numerous occassions that Lundqvist has marvelous legs...Paired with Dubi and Jagr saying they love each other, one has to think that yesterday was "Man-Love Monday"

Ah well.. another Versus telecast. Although, as long as we win again, I won't mind terribly. Let's Go Rangers!

dtaild, sounds like Al Trautwig's brother!

if I remember correctly JOHN M came here a couple of weeks back & suggested Dubinsky with Jagr & he was attacked as crazy.

Maybe Hossa creates room for Jagr. I'm not really even too sure of that either...only that Tom Renney tells us so. Brad Isbister also used to create room for Jagr. That does not necessarily mean either one of them deserve top line minutes with the guy. I know the whole team has struggled to score goals. But I honestly cannot think of too many instances so far this season where Hossa has provided much of anything. I would think Hossa would be dropped down when Straka comes back. But I'd be willing to bet that Renney somehow finds a way to keep him on the top line.

Now watch as Hossa puts 2 goals in tonight and I look like an idiot..... ;-)

The defense has settled down nicely too lately. Oh wait, that's right, Malik has been out the past two games.

BEAT THE ISLANDERS!!

i>Actually the Versus's guy said on numerous occassions that Lundqvist has marvelous legs...Paired with Dubi and Jagr saying they love each other, one has to think that yesterday was "Man-Love Monday"

That's why I was blushing so much, I can only take so much Man Love without giggling furiously ;))

Ana, kittens/cats rule! My cats are my babies =D

I'm very excited about tonight's game and I seriously want us to beat that team and stop their copycat center ice cheapy salute to their fans that they are doing ... grrrr just thinking on it annoys me but the great thing is that it doesn't truly matter because they can't compare to why we started doing it in November 2005 ...

Is anyone else as astounded as I at how seriously good Dan Girardi is?? Last year, I think we were happy just to see him not make mistakes. This year, it seems to me that he's taken his game to a whole new level. Not only is his decision making in his own zone nearly flawless, he's getting involved physically (did you see him level that Flyer that tried to blindside him along the boards in the first period.?), shows great vision, and he made a great little play to spring Jagr in for his goal last night. Between him, Staal, the prospects in the system, and the fact that we lead the league in GA, don't really see the need to package young players for another D-man at this particular point in time.

wondering, if dipietro can't play and dubielewicz is in the net, can dubi score on dubi?!? i seriously think so. and it will probably screw up the versus announcers. maybe they'll highlight the dubi vs. dubi battle.

seriously, islanders have won 4 out of last 5 and are confident. they need to be taken down a notch or two. feeling like the rangers will break through with an offensive onslaught, and score more than 2 goals tonight!!

GO RANGERS!

Chris..OUCH!!

From what I heard about the Ranger defensive prospects from Jess and others, we will have a big improvement next season without having to make any deals and give up valuable prospects. Just have to put up with Malik this season. Think this team is good enough to carry Malik as is. Hope he doesn't prove me wrong.

Joeymole, two Dubi's are enough to contend with, now you are adding a third???

Alan, Mark (who posts here once in a while) predicted this two years ago. BTW, that's not Colorado Mark although he definitely knows his hockey too.

guys cmon, who cares what people say when it comes to trading away our young guys, unless they have revealing photos of glen sather and are going to blackmail him i wouldnt be too worried about it, so i say trade away everybody not named jagr or shanny hahahaha

Chris Q - the d has been good for a lot more than 2 games. And Malik was a part of that effort. He was fine since he sat out the one game.

Thanks Adam, go eat another apple!! LOL

ok i know that for some games we will need orr and hollweg in when we need some sand paper in the lineup, but is it so wrong to have a line up like this

straka dubi jagr
avery gomez prucha
shanny drury dawes
callahan betts hossa

you can interchange callahan or hossa for prucha or dawes, however the chemistry works out, but with all the talent on the rangers its a shame that hollweg and orr are causing a logjam on that 4th line, i know renney likes the current 4th line because of their puck possession game and he likes playing them against other teams 1st lines so as to open up jagr and the other scoring lines, but i think the fourth line i mentioned could easily play a great puck possession game and score the occassional goal here and there, the way our 4th line is goin they might end up with 5 goals the whole year and thats being optimistic, thats insanity folks!

Sam just updated and confirms that Henrik is playing ... as if that's a shocker =P

Regarding Hossa. The man is a verry good hockey player.He does everything asked for/ controls the puck well/plays his position well/makes a lot of very good plays with his linemates/is a good pk/uses his body well/What more do you people want from him/Maby you want him to skate standing on his head.SET myself up for a few smart remarks there didnt I.

Straka-Dubinsky-Jagr
Dawes-Drury-Shanahan
Avery-Gomez-Prucha
Hossa/Hollweg-Betts-Callahan/Orr

The problem is we have 8 wingers who should be on the top 3 lines but 1 will have to sit as hollweg or orr will have to be in lineup. One winger will be traded at one point this season, it is inevitable.

It is still way too early to make trades but Renney will switch the wingers around to see which guys will go and Sather will work his magic and bring somebody whether a top prospect like a Bourret or a defensive upgrade but they will not just make a trade to get rid of someone it will be to make the team better.

The play-by-play guy last night was John Forslund. He's the pxp guy for the Carolina Hurricanes, so I get to listen to him every night (I live in NC). He and his partner Tripp Tracy are (unintentionally) hilarious!

What I hate about VS: the guys in the studio. They got rid of the one guy I could kind of put up with (Bill Clement), but they kept Mullet Man and Blockhead. What a couple of morons!

george

just like with Eli Manning he's the younger brother of a far superior player and will never be as good but just b/c his last name his Hossa everyone expects Marcel to be like his brother but he's not.

He doesn't have the shot Marian does so he uses his size to control the puck and cycle it to Jagr. Plus Marcel plays defense and has grown into one of the better Penalty killers in the league.

He plays very well with Jagr and although he doesn't rack up the points he is an important part of Jagr and Dubinsky's game. Straka will take his place when he is healthy but until then I am perfectly happy with Hossa on the first line.

well not in the league but on the Rangers...

Vince, root canal?? LMAO

That's a perfect description of Hossa!!

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